The top one was made today.....a very windy day after the night storm. It's a collage painting that started with the blue sky and simple white collaged on top. The bottom piece is all painted....no collage....on heavy Whatman paper. I alternate mostly between these two methods. I am thinking that I may make some, not that many, but some...larger pieces on paper, to the largest size of 22 x 30 inches.